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  What Is The "Typical" Elder In The Organization Like Now?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  when i was an elder, most of the elders were pretty independent 40 to 80 year olds.

  they had no issue speaking up to the circuit overseer.

  i wonder what the average elder is like now.

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  label licker

  LOL! That's hilarious, Outlaw. It would look more real if there's a cleaver or huge knife in his hands dripping with apostate blood.
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  What Is The "Typical" Elder In The Organization Like Now?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was an elder, most of the elders were pretty independent 40 to 80 year olds.

  they had no issue speaking up to the circuit overseer.

  i wonder what the average elder is like now.

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  It's not according to the bible where it were the older men that decided your fate along with the community. Now we have all young bastards who don't even read up on the new light and df you for argueing about things like that. Then, they go home and read up on it and you find out they were wrong but don't reverse their decision to df you. Punks that are still living off their parents who are heading towards forty and still living at home with mommy and grandmommy. None of them work and still complain they have too many parts. So so bizarre. The co says his hands are tied and can't intervene unless one elder steps out of line and defends the poor publisher then he will hear the case. My question is then why have an extra burden of a co if all they do is go from congregation giving talks? It's all phony when he comes to town anyways. And there's nothing new in their talks anyway.
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  Board of bitterness

  by 1009 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i always was a critical jw, now df and agnost.

  but still this religion fascinates me.

  in my eyes most jw are very sincere, but dumb sheep.. this board is filled with ex-jw.

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  label licker

  and if you didn't notice bad things going on around you, then you were either the one being bad to them or you were too busy licking labels to become a label

  just saying
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  Board of bitterness

  by 1009 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i always was a critical jw, now df and agnost.

  but still this religion fascinates me.

  in my eyes most jw are very sincere, but dumb sheep.. this board is filled with ex-jw.

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  LOL! Nice one Simon. See, I'm not bitter
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  Board of bitterness

  by 1009 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i always was a critical jw, now df and agnost.

  but still this religion fascinates me.

  in my eyes most jw are very sincere, but dumb sheep.. this board is filled with ex-jw.

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  label licker

  It's pretty sad when you have to ask the co to df you in order that you can appeal it because the elders are so corrupt and cover up a family's illigal activity and then you find out your accusers are that whole family's relatives who can't remember jack! That the co wouldn't allow me to get df'd knowing that the next committee would see this was just BS! And all this gave them the right to rip my family away from which they did just by public reproofing me as well as df'ing my spouse. So now, what's your story and why are you here?
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  Board of bitterness

  by 1009 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i always was a critical jw, now df and agnost.

  but still this religion fascinates me.

  in my eyes most jw are very sincere, but dumb sheep.. this board is filled with ex-jw.

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  Is helping others a sin? I'm glad this board is here for I would of been roving aimlessly trying to find that abundance of truth which jw's do not have. THANK YOU JW NET!!!!!
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  Mom & Dad (Uber Dubs) and convo about child abuse within the BORG

  by El_Guapo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i tt mom and dad via skype last weekend (they live on the other part of the county) and the topic of abuse came up.

  of course they went ahead and blasted catholics for their coverups.

  i mentioned gonzalo campos, now mom and dad know this guy he went to their hall for several years in san diego.

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  If they set up a jc and you don't go, you will automatically be df'd on the grounds of a bad attitude. That's what happened to hubby. As far as witnesses go 1 Corinthian 13:1, they do not apply it. I supposedly was suppose to have twenty-five accusers from my hall and yet not one story was the same and not one story had two witnesses yet the co said because there were twenty-five with "similar" stories I got publically reproved for discourageing ones from pioneering five years ago. I guess that's where the brazen conduct rule comes in. They can go back as far as they want even if the accusers couldn't remember their stories.

  Bottom line-if they like you you won't have to worry about it. If you don't care if you get df'd then don't bother going to any hearings.

  Good luck!
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  Need article about looking to the slave rather than Christ for salvation

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  2. friends

  i thought there was something recently.

  clyde says he needs it soon to show a friend, and i don't know where to find it.

  can i get it off jw.org ?

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  Marked! Reading Deuteronomy 15:12-18 was showing how that slave would be happy pleaseing his master that after the seven years once freed from being a slave he still wanted to serve his master no matter what. How he was entrusted with all his masters belongings. We are the faithful and discreet slaves. You don't see us plastering our faces and names in all the publications handing them out to the public. You don't see these eight goons helping the poor first, widows and orphans in the congregations first, and then the Levite priests would be next on the list for they had put their whole lives teaching( tithes) and then the rest of the money went on the needs of the congregation like the buildings or whatever. Everything goes to the WBT$.

  Again, Jesus was quoteing from the Torah when he was useing that PARABLE about the faithful and discreet slave to his apostles whom by the way wrote these inspired scriptures and who are the foundation described in at Revelation 21:14.

  You can't expect anything spiritual from these" lawless" (men without Torah) men

  Are these slaves(witlesses) happy to be serving their master??????????????????????????????????????????
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  What is the WT's definition of an Apostate...

  by Bells in

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  2. friends

  i don't mean the 'unruly men who cook up wicked reasoning and season their brew with poisonous lies that deceive minds' definition.... i mean - who are they actually referring to when they are doing these awful talks at the conventions about the mentally diseased apostates etc.. specifically - is an 'apostate' someone who was actually baptised (baptized for you american's ) ?

  or can someone who was simply raised in "the truth" but left and was never baptised be classified as this lying, deceiving, mentally diseased apostate also?

  or am i considered to be an apostate - even though i wasn't raised in the cult, never went to a meeting etc.

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  But then look what happened to us. Hubby tried telling the one elder that the fds didn't start until 1919 according to their new light and the elder said that wasn't true. That the fds has been here since the apostles. Then he pointed his finger at hubby and said your an apostate and said he was df'd. That's all it took. When it came to my jc I kindly reminded him (since he was on my jc) what he did to my hubby and he admitted that hubby was right but still wouldn't reinstated him. (don't worry, hubby knows for sure this is not the truth)We have it all on tape. To me I believe more than anything in this world society's definition of apostasy is anyone who believes in the bible period! To them it's all about their trashy literature and false doctrines. It's no wonder the spot they picked to build their new world headquarters is in a protected rattlesnake pit! Check it out for yourselves.
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  Question regarding parental obligation to report to authorities

  by gbrn in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i am relatively new to the forum, and not quite as familiar with all of the ins and outs of jw culture as many of you are, so i apologize if this is an ignorant question.

  it is quite apparent the wt has handled child abuse allegations in a horrible way, viewing it as sin as opposed to a crime.

  after an allegation is reported to the elders, and they are not required by law to report to the authorities, why don't parents simply go to the authorities themselves and report the crime.

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  As the elders told me in my jc this past week, that they would expect the victim and/or their family to go straight to the police. That it would be between the victim, the criminal and the law. Total different story we got from our other elder(serving on this same body of dim wits) who also is a fill-in circuit overseer that the body of elders have no say as to what they can do to pedophiles that they are to report it to the branch office. That their hands(the elders) are tied in these situations and that it's up to the branch office to decide what will be done with the pedophile. So, there still seems to be a lack of communication with the headquarters and our elders where pedophilia is concerned. I wouldn't expect anything honorable from these goons!